Braco Pobric 0:00
Welcome to Business and happiness podcast. I'm your host, Braco Pobric. JJ, this episode is sponsored by life Success Academy, a place where you recreate your business and personal happiness. Hi, everyone. So today I have my special guests is Martin durata. Martin is plus a psychology master coach. And also he has a holistic healing and coaching practice. And as a couple more things, but we will let Martin talk. So today we wanted to talk Martin about, you know, business and happiness, your enterpreneurship you and your fiance working this together. And I just really like the main thing I wanted to hear what you're doing. And also how do you handle? How do you handle this, you know, staying happy, and at the same time, establishing creating your business. So welcome back, buddy. How are you?
Martin Durak 0:56
Oh, great. Thanks, Braco. for having me. This is such a great time. Yeah, for sure. I would love to talk about how we started our business and how we actually can juggle, you know, having a business and a relationship at the same time. It's not, I would say, it is not the easiest task, but it's definitely doable. But you have to know all these wonderful tools and skills right to balance yourself and bring back. So this is really how to do it. Right? We we work and then we feel it gets a little bit too much. We use all these tools we meditate. We do visualization, we journal, you know, we have these heart talks, and we we cannot always redirect ourselves or refocus on on what is the big thing? What are we actually trying to do? Right? So this is really how we handle the whole business and relationships. And I would say I guess most of people don't have experience of having like being coupled and doing the same business, right? Most people, I guess they try to do it on their own, which we think about it maybe might be easier in one way. Because you don't have another person to like, who has different opinions and reread and different kind of things to talk about and maybe different aspects on how they want to run the business. But on the other hand, and what you get get from having a partner is that it's all the force pushing forward is kind of double. That's how I said, yeah, yeah,
Braco Pobric 2:39
right here. It's interesting. I know you and I had at some point discussion about this. And I actually had still do, but it's a little bit different now. But I always say the business with my wife. And at one point, it was just a full time, both of us. And I remember telling you, you have to be prepared this is, you know, first thing is to keep your relationships and make sure that you know the business doesn't affect it, because a lot of people mess up one or the other. And as you said at the same time, it's really helpful because and having a different opinion is a good thing, believe it or not, because, right, that's really how we create a good business. So So what tool set you mentioned are the bunch of tools that I you and I know and some people probably don't, you know, of course everybody hear about meditation these days in mindfulness. And you talked about journaling, you talked about how do you when you said you use all these tools? Well first of all, how did you learn all of this? I know you were taking number of different courses right? And I always say that you know sometimes people will sell you one course this is all you ever need to become the best coach ever. If that doesn't exist, I wish it does because I will even take it today and but it's a set of all these things that you do in life and then something clicks and you start and we do it quick and you started to tell us a little bit all that
Martin Durak 4:11
yeah, for sure. So yeah, I definitely agree that there is no perfect one course and then you will become the super expert on everything right. I think that actually being a coach are kind of part of being coaches inspire people right and give them new tools and then requires constant work on yourself. So that kind of goes again doing one course and then nowhere to go knowing knowing it all forever. So yeah, definitely like for me how it started. I was always interested in all these kinds of things personal development and how why why some people are happy even though they have less and some people are unhappy even though they have everything right. So that really intrigued me. And I was like, what's, what's the, what's the catch here? You know what's going on? And then I started to take different courses. And you know, each course had its its own unique thing. I did your course, when we were learning lots of amazing things about what is happiness? And what does it mean for each of us and how, how we should, like, implement different tools and skills into our life to be happy, even though we are going through some hardships or 100 times. So yeah, that's, that's how it started. At one point, I was like, Okay, well, I feel I know enough that I could actually help people. Right. And that's so
Braco Pobric 5:45
so but but you know, what I'm thinking is, most a lot of people feel like, I know, enough, right? That can help other people. But But, but it's, but very few jump from I know enough, I can help to, I going to start my own putting everything into this my resources, my time, my energy in this, which you are doing. And I wonder, is there something that clicked that you said, it's the time now this is it, it usually, it's either from, you know, you, you want to stay away from some pain. So people have like jobs that they hate, they make Okay, money, but by the miserable, and they just want to jump in, or some people simply, you know, want to start their own business. They've been enterprise for their life. And they always did something like, in my case, ever since I was kid I always had some business. But like for you, how did that? Was there something that how did that play? Yeah, it is. I'm asking because I know, I have a lot of people in my audience, I have a lot of students, I have a lot of, you know, a coaches to get certified. And you know, there are different levels. Of course, they may not be, you know, in may not be at the level that you are now. But but but the next thing that jumped, I call it, I'm coach now what? Jump is that thing that that that people need to take? Right? And how did you was this one thing that triggered that just curious?
Martin Durak 7:28
Hmm. So when I think about it, that's a really good question. Definitely. Yeah. Like, I see that most of people, that's the general thing, right? Like, I have a dream, but then I'm actually doing actions towards the dream. And that's really where it comes down to it right? When you have, at least for me, that's how it was, I started thinking about, because I was thinking about what do I want to do for a while. But that didn't seem to be that big of a motivation for me to make that change. But when I started to think of what happens, because I was thinking, what happens we'll have it will be when I will do all these things that felt so good. And the vision was great. But I was still not really making the change, like quitting my job, right? And then starting a business and everything and what did you do before, and I was, I was working fire protection. So I was doing field supervisor and I had worked on a construction site and with project managers for 11 years. I have good money. I'm, I could have this as a career, right? But the thing was that I was constantly thinking about, I would be meeting people and they would tell me about different problems, right? And because I was always as I mentioned, at the beginning, I was always interested in why things are certain way and then the psychology of things right and why certain people are seem to have less and be happier. And when I met these people, I was like, Oh, wow, I could help them. And I felt like without i i wouldn't have the authority if I was trying to help people from being still working in fire protection. No one I felt at least that no one would really want to listen to me. Right. So that was one of one of the motivations for me. But I would say that the biggest motivation for me was definitely not thinking about like, how about what would happen when I achieve it, but rather than what would happen if I don't do anything? There was a good thing for me. Yeah,
Braco Pobric 9:50
that's a great because they are really exactly two questions. You absolutely right. It's not about so one is okay, if I get this here's what's gonna happen. But But what do you find, though? And that's, it's a great question for folks to ask themselves. What if I don't, you know, be like, I got to have a career I'll make okay money? Or will I be miserable? Will I be 65? And see what the heck I did with my life? Right? I mean, that's really important. And, and what's also important is, yes, you will have Korea. But now you have a call. Now, it's like, this is right now, this is where you do this for a lot. You do this because you passionate, you don't feel like working. I know. That's, you know, since I switched now full time this, I don't feel like working. You know, this morning, actually, I was up like four o'clock in my access meditation, right into the office. So, you know, and when you have you're working for somebody, sometimes. They're different.
Martin Durak 10:50
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, what you're saying is absolutely true. It's, when you are on the purpose, you don't feel like you're working, you know, it's you, you have like, I would say, unlimited energy. And you just, you just go and you just do it, and your reward is having the kinds you've worked with the outcome, you know, them to deliver, and then they do get that outcome. And that's really when you feel like Oh, my God, this was totally worth, you know, to go through all these all these big life changes and, and struggles and figuring out things right, and, and so on. So, yeah, as you said, like, being just, you know, being on purpose is like, such an, how would I call it like, we are here to speak our own kind of through threat as each individual. And unless we step into that, or like, we step into what we really are, and what is our calling? It's, it's like a almost like a, like a different life. You know, you're you're living, you're living just to just to kind of pay bills, let's say or at least that like that. That's how it was for me. I mean, yeah, sure, at the beginning, because things were new at that job, or job, it was interesting, but at some point, I realized that yeah, I already like mastered that. I would, but that's not really, it's not really there. For me, I just didn't feel like okay, this is really what I will have to do. Right. So what I'm trying to say is, like, you know, inside of you are really just doing it to survive, or you are on purpose, right. And I think that's the biggest thing.
Braco Pobric 12:34
Yeah, good point. Now, there is a one thing, right, so people are thinking, okay, just like I said, I'm coaching or what? So I have a, maybe I have a job, maybe I don't. So let's say people do have a job, most of my students, right, so they do something like you were doing, and they want to move into this. And, look, there are also a lot of obstacles, you know, things don't happen. People always look at, you know, successful individual says, like, wow, you know, this guy's multi millionaire, and he's just in coaching, and, you know, but they don't see all the things that that person went through to get there. So what are the some of the obstacles that you think that you went through? Or maybe even going through? Now? I know, we all are, yeah, there's no perfect nothing in life. So what are some of the things that people need to be aware of?
Martin Durak 13:25
I think that the number one thing, and for our, for our audience, what I would recommend they should start doing and they want to make the step or take the action is really to work on the mindset, right? I know, mindset is a huge thing. But
Braco Pobric 13:46
how do you define it? You don't have to give it you don't have to give me definition. But seriously, I was just discussing this with somebody the other day. And, you know, also, maybe because we are in this business, we are in mindset all the time. So so like, in your own words, what does that mean? Again? I don't mean to finish, but yeah, it's important. Yes.
Martin Durak 14:10
Yeah, absolutely. Like in this kind of setting, I would say it's about just really believing in yourself and have this this this belief or capacity that anything that comes in the way I will deal with it, you know, it might not be perfect, but eventually I will deal with it, and I will be a step closer to my goal. And there was really something God kept me going because I felt like okay, there is like this 1000s List of 1000s of things I have to do to even get started. Right. And the moment I let myself think about oh, but if it doesn't work out, or but you know, yeah, but yeah, but that Yeah, but I call it the Yap. Yeah, but Right. So that would, that's what I would say is them. them the mindset for me in this kind of situation when you're starting your business or trying to do anything new, what you haven't done before, is to, for me, really believe that I can handle it and I can take take on anything that comes in the way. And that was the biggest thing for me, right? Oh, yeah. Like, I'm supposed to start coaching people for the first time, you know, and I was like, What am I gonna tell them? You know, what am I what exercises I'm gonna use? What did they ask me this? What if they don't ask me this?
Braco Pobric 15:36
Yes, you know, I recall our discussion in one of the live sessions that we had, I think this was in the mastermind. And actually, thanks to you, you're the one who kept asking about credibility. Right. So who am I? And how do I establish this? And actually, I have to share with your ability program. But anyway, so you're triggered, actually, that it's a really great question. How do you, you know, and maybe just like, in couple of, you know, in a minute or so, what did you do it? We still keep, we still need to keep doing this, right. But now you you're getting establish your credibility, people start getting to trust you? What are the few steps that you have done? Or you've been doing? To kind of establish that?
Martin Durak 16:26
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Definitely. For me, it was get get myself out there and start creating some content, you know, and I would say the number one tip for that would be better done than perfect. So if we can create anything that comes from your heart, and it's authentic, and your intention is to help or give value to people, and you can make posts on social media, you can be on Instagram, you can make YouTube videos, or you can just talk to people you meet. And yes, you are not afraid to mention that you are coach or you are starting a new business and so on. And that will really help because then people will. Because you know how that works. People always see you as how you present yourself to them. Right? So essentially, it's about showing up with people and showing up on social media and creating content content with the alignment of the goal. So if I want to be coach, or if I'm saying that I will, I can help people with relationships or with their pain or chronic pain, creating contact the people, even if they don't pay for anything, they will just write, read it. That will definitely build credibility, right that people will think oh, like, Okay, this person's getting out of there and no threat? Yeah, for sure.
Braco Pobric 18:10
Yeah, good point. I mean, that's, and then, you know, when you see even if they don't pay anything, you know, again, we even had this discussion. And it's really about, you know, in the beginning, because I always tell my coaches did the good ones, right? No free sessions. That's it. I don't, I don't know. But in the beginning to establish that, and also, you know, to practice good, you can just become great, I charge 10,000 bucks a session, and you don't know what you're doing, you can but then you'll never get to the client. So, right. So so so so learning, practicing and keep adjusting. And you pointed something out was really good. It's a lot of people ask me, like, you know, so what do I do as a coach? What tools do I use? And what questions do I ask? And later on, as you know, now, it's not about what tools I use to come up. And it's not also about, okay, I have the study tools, and I go and pick this up. I tell people don't do it doesn't work that way, you have no clue what time what issue the client is going to come up with, right or bring you to that session, but it's the experience that right, that will they will get you to that point. That's where you are now.
Martin Durak 19:29
Yeah, exactly. Like I would say. I always like of course, when these thoughts can come up and be like, you know, we can be thinking about oh, well, I wonder what what we are going to be talking about with this client. But what I've observed with my with my plans is that it always ends up being about something else. And I thought, first of all, so trying to prepare for that something is always almost a waste of well At least you get to know more things. But still, it's a waste of time for that specific client. So I would say that, as long as, as I feel like, as long as I'm constantly learning new things, and, you know, exploring new ways how to help people, then when I'm having the session with the client, it just comes up. And they say something, right? They say something and you remember, Oh, yes, I actually read this, or I practiced it with myself, I can recommend them do that. Right. And that's what has been happening for me, like, exactly as you said, I don't take 30 tools. And then I'm like, wait, wait, we have to use this one. No, it just comes up as it goes. And it actually ends up always being really powerful. You know, those? Because I feel like when it comes on, unplanned, it always comes right on point. Have you had that experience? Well, yes. But
Braco Pobric 20:58
it has to be because again, this is why, you know, I sometimes struggle on putting something in place for new coaches. But it's a struggle, you know, people want to have a process from day one. But but it's really and this should, right? process, not the tools, but the process. But it's not easy. When you very experienced, it's hard to create that because you don't have one I you know, I don't have a process that's written down, it's somewhere in my head, and some were even in subconscious mind. You know, mind comes in you of course, you have to prepare, it does, that doesn't mean prepare, exercise, that means be ready for that client, before he or she walks into your session, either in person or right. That's different preparation versus thinking
Martin Durak 21:49
oh, yeah, that's, that's, that's, you read, like, that's completely different preparation. It's about centering yourself getting in the universe, like out of your mind or more into, like, let's say, the present moment, right, and just kind of really tune into active listening, you know, so we listen to what the client is saying, rather to judge them right, or listen to what our own inner voice is saying about what they are saying. Yes, yes. Kind of preparation. Yeah.
Braco Pobric 22:21
Yes, yes, yes, exactly. Right. That's what that's where that mental coaching comes to place. We don't have time to go into that. But yeah, you know, what else? Is there some. Like, I don't want to call it final recommendation, but something that you would recommend folks who actually want to jump, you know, who are almost ready to start doing what you doing. But there is something stopping them, of course, you would have done this thing better. So we're not saying it's caused these people, but some of them, what would you recommend something you would recommend? So we talked about mindset, right? We talked about some of the tools from positive psychology to everything else that you using, which we'll discuss in another session. But is there something else, like anything else you can think of?
Braco Pobric 23:20
I would just care. Like people are scared, like the leaving that, you know, they might hate the job. But it's not easy to to leave, because you got to pay your bills. I mean, sometimes to give you an idea, sometimes I may recommend people to start slow, right? To start maybe part time, make sure this isn't the right for them. Because I had people that I know not really my clients who jumped too quickly, and failed miserably and couldn't even go back to their profession. I wanted people to be careful. Because it's easy to say just don't worry about leave the thing that you'll be successful here. But it's not that simple. I mean, to be fair, to everybody, right? So that's, that's what I'm thinking like, I often recommend people to go slow, unless this is the question I asked, How much money have you got 5 million in the bank? Can you afford to spend a million? Go for it? Right? You have like, you know, 300 bucks in the bank?
Martin Durak 24:23
Yeah, actually, that's exactly what I was gonna mention is that just do the math. Just do the math and figure out the numbers figure out like, Okay, how much time I can, let's say, can I work only three days to work three days a week, right in my current job, and then take those two days to start my coaching practice, right? Or can I maybe just completely stop right now because I have some money saved, right? And invest all in. Like really just think about it and do the math. And I would say one more thing that really helped me. And that is kind of ties into the mindset that everything together. Like, I started, I really love his realizations, because it's like marriage, it's like, it's not a meditation, it's more like creation, I call it creation. So it definitely helps me because once you start really imagining yourself in the future like, and like you really feel those things like they're happening now. And then you open your eyes. And you see it's not there yet, as you teach it in your course still, right? The brain will always jump to ways how to make it work, you know, because that's really, that's really a great motivation. You were saying, like, how do you make that jump? Well imagine yourself actually sitting with a client or having 10 clients on the Zoom call already. And they are all crying and saying, thanking you and having breakthroughs and saying, Oh, that was amazing. Thank you for coaching, right? And do that. Imagine that visualize. And then once you open your eyes, you'll be like, damn it, I gotta take those days off, you know, from my full time job and start doing this, I guarantee you that.
Braco Pobric 26:13
I am so glad you said that. And I am saying we don't have much time to go into visualization. But I actually love I think it's a, it's an amazing exercise, maybe just take a minute to explain to people what they're doing. Some people don't even know, you know, what's the visualization?
Martin Durak 26:29
Yeah, for sure. Um, well, I'm sure you're familiar with meditation, where we sit down and we observe our thoughts, or we can kind of meditate you can we can think of meditation as this, almost like emptying your mind in a way. And then visualization is more about creating something. So the whole point is that we create something in the mind and also connected with the feelings. So we create a vision of something in the future. And we feel like it's happening already now. And that's like, the most powerful way how to do it. So instead of, instead of thinking, Oh, I will be going on I will be having, I will have these amazing clients. You can imagine yourself like it's happening now. And then how would you feel when that's happening, right. And that's really, that's really the whole magic to it. And you will find that after doing that for 510 minutes. It all just kind of stirs up inside of you. And you'll feel these emotions. And that will just change the way how you see things, it will give you this kick or motivation. And
Braco Pobric 27:46
no, thanks for sharing. I think it's a great exercise. It was the time that I, I would I would do visualization the same thing day after day, then I would, I would write a reflection paper. This was when I had my interest in business. And I really wanted to get rid of it. And I was just imagining myself, right. What is happening, and finally did happen. And as you said, it didn't really happen. Because I imagined that I just want to make sure people understand. But it's because something happens. And you know, like you said, you were talking about how you open up your eyes in your brain goes, what happened? I just saw it. Where did it go? Right? And as long as you truly truly feel it, I mean, it it's just all me sit down and think of something No. Right? And, and it will basically as I say, you know, help you do some action. An action is what makes a change. It's not just because you think of change, it's the action, right? That you know, that your brain is really if you simplify, that's really cool. Cool. Cool. Let's say thank you so much. This was really fun. I think we gave new coaches people just want to start their own business, lots of ideas, what to do, and, and also to folks who basically do this in partnership with the person that they live with, because that's another thing that you have to adjust and make sure the relationships that you keep your relationships in in a good shape, if you will. And yes, I think we gave them you gave them a lot of great ideas. So thank you so much, my friend, and I will donate you soon.
Martin Durak 29:33
Thank you. Bye bye everybody.
Braco Pobric 29:36
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