Braco Pobric 0:00
Welcome to Business and happiness podcast. I'm your host Braco Pobric. This episode is sponsored by life Success Academy, a place where you recreate your business and personal happiness. Hi, everyone. So today, I have Martin Durack. And we'll be talking specifically about, about holistic coaching and healing and couple other things that Martin does really well. And I know we have a lot of people interested to learn about this. So our team, how are you, buddy?
Martin Durak 0:39
Thanks for having me again. So nice to be here. How are you?
Braco Pobric 0:44
I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I happen to hear a couple minutes ago before we started recording pancakes in the background that are waiting for you. So I wish there is a mechanism for you to send me a few but but that instead of pancakes, we will we will jump into holistic coaching and healing so so you know, we hear this word holistic, coaching, holistic healing? I know this is your specialty, what is it? What do you mean? Like,
Martin Durak 1:19
believe me or not, you know, I hear this question a lot. So, holistic view finding, if you find it in the dictionary, right, it translates it will tell you that it's like a general overall with like a complete or complex kind of approach, right? So holistic, if I translate it into what specifically it means in our business, is that we look at a person and we look, we look at their life, and how they think, how they live, how they behave, right? And we look at their emotional and thinking habits. And we also look at the body, right? And because the body is this another very complex element into like the
Braco Pobric 2:16
self, right, probably the most complex universe, essentially,
Martin Durak 2:20
I love to always say that. The there is no body and mind, because the body is the mind, crave your support, if you really look at it on a physical level, the brain, you know, we mentioned the brain, and there's all that the spine, right, there's a spinal cord. And then there is nerve connections going from the spinal cord to every every organ and every part of your body, right. So essentially, you have like, your body's almost like another brain, like, and it's connected together with your brain. So, so your body is like a subconscious mind. And then you have your conscious mind, which is up here. And so really holistic means that we look at both aspects of the person, like the mind and the body, and we approach it that way. Rather than be looking at, let's say, Jesse, or B, we help people get over chronic pain, right? So let's say instead of telling them, oh, well, you have to go get a surgery, right? Or you have to take this pill, to get rid of this chronic pain. We actually look at their habits, right, and then we look at their childhood, and we see what more what is their from their childhood, and then through body work, and breath work, we release anything what's stuck in the body, from the past, right? And because as I'm trying to explain that it's all interconnected, your body can literally take, take over your mind, right? So whatever happened in the past, it could be stored in your body. And then it actually affects you in the present moment, and you behave differently.
Braco Pobric 4:12
So so this is really interesting what you said, your body pin can take over your mind. People usually look at it the other way, right? That's so true. So your body can take over your mind. And the way I'm thinking is you're talking about the past. And I'm thinking also about presence, meaning that anything that we can tell me if this makes sense from your anything that we do, anything that we do, affects our body, all the emotions that we have, right? So right so so if we feel a good our body will actually produce a good chemical and give us more good if we feel like shift if we feel bad if we feel depressed, but he goes okay, here's a little more of it too. Does that make sense?
Martin Durak 5:02
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. As See, this is exactly the fact that the body is the mind. It's it equals it's interconnected. So as you said, What do you feel? That you will think? And what do you think that it will you will, that you will feel? Alright. So let's say, if you, let's say something happened in the past for you, and dog, but you were when you were young, right? And then now you're afraid of dogs? Yes. And you don't even have to meet a dog, you can just think of a dog. And this thought, literally creates emotions and feelings and physical changes in your body. Right? Yeah, then because you feel these changes. Let's say you think of a dog, then you get all tense and scared, let's say, right? You have a trauma. From you know, let's say you're scared of dogs. And that's your trauma. You have a physical reaction. And because you have this physical reaction, that reaction actually creates new thoughts based on those reactions. So you start thinking, Oh, I will never see another dog again. I will never get close to another dog again. Yes. The herd is interconnected is like the circle. Yeah.
Braco Pobric 6:15
So you, do you have a waist? Release this. People release this basically? Yeah. I don't know that. You know, in the past, we used to some NLP tools. I don't know what you use it. How
Martin Durak 6:30
do you do this? So? Yeah, so
Braco Pobric 6:33
And sorry, NLP, for those who don't know, Mystic programming?
Martin Durak 6:38
Yeah, absolutely. Like, so what do we do? The whole, the whole idea here is that the body can heal itself when it gets what it needs, when it's in the environment, what it needs to do the healing, right. And what I mean by that is that if we are in certain trauma, or we are in certain, like a heavy load from from stress, or experiences or emotions, the healing in the healing mechanism gets kind of, like suppressed and turned off. Because all the energy yes to these other things. Right, right. Yes. Is the body doing what it knows the best? But do address your question like, how do we do it? Well, there's something called biodynamic breathwork, which is a way of activating your nervous system. And any, because like our nervous system, our subconscious mind essentially records, everything, what we have lived through, we don't have access to it. But as you live your life, every little thing, what kind of didn't make through let's say, you you had some traumatic experience, it got stored in your in your body as as energy in the nervous system. And then over time, it creates, that's how it creates this problem, like chronic pain and different chronic illnesses, right. And that's where we are different compared to, let's say, the more of the Western approach, where you have certain problems with certain part of your body. The western approach is that you look at specifically, let's say, the part of that body and try to treat that right. Like you do, you try to, you will cut out the liver and put a new one in, for example, but we we are like our holistic approach is that you look at the body, you look at what's where there is imbalance, where the nervous system needs to be reactivated and something what got stuck in the nervous system, God can be released, let's say some trauma, right? So what we do is the by dynamic breathwork, for example, when someone let's say is the exact specific example that that person afraid of the dog, you we do this special technique, or this special kind of breathwork, where we activate their body and activate their nervous system and the body. When it gets activated, it tends to balance itself. It tends to like, heal and, and reset everything, right? So if you are in this activated state, everything can start releasing what was stuck there. I say the traumas or the emotion from the past, and the person can have a release, they can cry, or they can scream or some kind of emotion and this and they don't even know about it. The thing that's the magic about it that the body the subconscious mind is like this element on its own. We don't have access to it.
Braco Pobric 9:49
Sorry, when you sit they don't even know about it. What do you mean? Well, let's
Martin Durak 9:54
say we had a client yesterday, right?
Braco Pobric 9:57
Sorry, city was trying to answer the question.
Martin Durak 10:05
Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. So, for example, we had a client yesterday and he has a tendency to suppress his emotions or because when he was a kid or and his family expressing emotions or even saying that you feel any emotions was a sign of weakness.
Braco Pobric 10:25
Yes. Generations, that's how
Martin Durak 10:29
exactly yeah, so we talked about it, I did a little coaching with him, then we did some bodywork with him. And he said, Well, I don't really feel like I have anything from my past, you know, I feel really good.
Braco Pobric 10:40
And by doing this guy wasn't like Italian Mafia, you know?
Martin Durak 10:50
Though Yeah, the interesting thing was that once we started doing the borrower window activation, and we entered into like, the subconscious mind, he started to read he cried. And, and he had, like, he had a lot of shaking, a lot of tension left his body, right, it's gonna resets. And at the end, he was saying, like, well, I thought that I'd never like X, like, I don't have problem with emotions, like expressing them, whatever. But then he said, like, well, if this is what means to feel emotions, and I never felt them before. Right. Wow. That's really interesting. Yeah, that's the really cool thing about it that most is
Braco Pobric 11:35
really interesting. Yeah. You know, when you said, you know, invest, and I think, you know, really reasons, key in the West. Always think I mean, I shouldn't oversimplify, but it's all about growing economy and money. And everything we do is for the money. So it's easier just to look at one part of the body. You know, here's the medication. Why does you know a drug industry doesn't let other industry to come in? Because because they just making fortune, why would you have tea, they can help you. This reminded me on years ago, I worked in New York City on the Bowery street and there is a for some of those who know New York is a Chinese actually Chinatown is like, right, next is a little Italy in Chinatown. And my wife had like, really painting in the back, and just all kinds of paints. And she would go there was a Chinese doctor there in it was a pharmacy, Chinese pharmacy, and that this guy didn't speak any English. But you would, she would go to him. And, and he was a doctor in China, right? But he wasn't a doctor here. And then there was a guy who would translate and they would ask questions, and he would just measure polls. That's all he did. Right? And then, like on the shelf, they had like a ton of these different herbs. And he would go and mix. But he would mix all these different herbs. And after like, I don't know how long my wife the pain disappeared? Like we have no, we just but it also had to do that we try you know, you have to also trust that approach. I think when client come to you, they don't trust you this probably they are going to get help. Almost like chiropractor. Right? At least in my case. That's what it was. You know, I trusted I believe it will help me any help some people when you don't trust, right? When you don't believe?
Martin Durak 13:39
Yeah, that's a good point to believe is a big aspect of this whole thing. I mean, well, really people who don't believe they, they really first, I mean, people don't believe in this stick approach if they go and try the usual methods, right? They're not your clients, clients, but a lot of the times people actually go through this whole process right of going to correct or going there. And then they realize that even after a surgery or even after 50 visits to a physician, they still have the pain right? And then that that's when they come to us.
Braco Pobric 14:22
Yeah. So So let me ask you this. So this is you know, about you know, holistic healing, right, if you will, and I also know that you also coach and you are combining I happen to have number of, you know, clients who are who have a different practices first comes to mind. You might know Carolyn, she's a kinesiologist. And she has to learn. You took the sports psychology master course program now, she realized that she can reuse turn these coaching tools to basically help her clients and I know you do both. How does it work? Do what's the approach?
Martin Durak 15:02
So, really, the coaching part is to really dive deep into the, the person's life, right? And to analyze and to see, what is their what might be causing some imbalances, right? Mainly the biggest thing, what actually, I found, causes these chronic illnesses and pains is their emotional and thinking habits. Right? It's like, because I've seen a case, there was a person who she was a yoga master yoga teacher, and she ate really healthy, and she was a yoga instructor. So you would think she would, she should be really healthy, right? Yeah, she was actually getting she was in the process of getting chemotherapy for cancer, because she had a cat. And you were like, you're thinking like, what is that? Like? How was that possible? And then her stories that she realized that she wasn't eating healthy, and she was doing yoga and all these exercises, but she was really constantly intention, and anxiety and stress from putting so much pressure on herself. Right? And, and she was really, in this environment of like, negative emotions, and all these chemical connected vid like the negative negative feelings, right? So that actually ties into the positive psychology, right? Is that same as the, like, we all know that if you're gonna be constantly angry, it's gonna or stressed, you will have, we will feel some health. Like,
Braco Pobric 16:41
you're gonna get some stress chemicals and some part of your
Martin Durak 16:46
immune system. Yeah, your immune system with chronic illnesses. So if this is true about the negative emotions is the same anything is anything else? Yeah. And it is the same thing. And it's definitely true about the positive ones, too. Yeah. So her story was that, once you start focusing on this, and change the patterns of thinking and feeling, right, she started to heal without anything. So that's the, that's the beauty of it. And this is what I do, right? As a coach, and I help I help the clients to identify these these, let's say imbalances, and then we work on them and having a breakthrough. So they can really be like, okay, so by thinking that or by feeling that or by having this habit, I'm causing myself these problems, right, and I, and I help them to learn these tools and implement them in their everyday life. So in the future, they can coach themselves, and they don't, don't collect those things again. So that's why that's where it all comes together. Where the body work, and the coaching together is really great, because the body work helps to release anything, what has been collected so far, let's say if you're 50 years old person, and you have back pains, it's because we have collected all this stuff over 50 years, you get activated, you release it, and then the coaching part is for you to not stop collecting it further on in the future, right. And this is really, the beauty of it, because it focuses on the root of the problem. Right? Instead of just dealing, if you really think about it, pain is never a cause pain is a symptom of something else. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Yes. So it seems when so, so trying to get rid of the pain of dealing with the pain or, or cut something out of your body, what is in pain, is has never dealing with the issue. It's only right. And that's, and that's where it comes to the holistic approach where you actually deal with the root of the problem. So it never comes up again.
Braco Pobric 18:57
You know, what I really like is how you are incorporating really everything and literally, right positive psychology to all of this. And I think that's really, really important. I really think that's important because people come you know, with different beliefs and different backgrounds. And you know, like I said, this you know, lady that's actually doing the kinesiology and using a coaching I think it's really important, really important, you know, instead of just because sometimes people see these things as actually even you know, this, this Kinesiologist friend mentioned, like some people sees it as a voodoo thing, right. But when you present yourself as somebody who is you know, Dante's there's a research behind positive psychology, there's this so you combine all of this so you're not just like somebody, oh, I'm gonna help you release your feelings. But seriously, sometimes people think like, you know, and unless they truly believe in that, they think like, add on He's going to help me write two questions. One is, how long does it usually take? To help clients? I know there is no definitive answer. But the reason I'm asking because I always when I work with my coaching clients, I tell them, Look, you know, you are not counseling counselor, you're not psychotherapist, your job is to come in and quickly get out as soon as you can. So client can move on, right? And you don't just keep clients because you need additional income. Clients may come with different problems, but I curious how it works with this. It's one. And I had another question, but I'll come up with.
Martin Durak 20:41
Yeah, for sure. So, um, absolutely. Like it can take, it can take different kinds of time with each kind depends on how, like, strong their issue is right or not big of an issue it is, but usually takes around four to six weeks to have really big breakthroughs and changes. And let's say someone has been taking pain, have frozen shoulder or neck, you know, for years and 50, massages and physiotherapists. And after six weeks, you can you can, this all can go and love big breakthroughs. And you can have like transformation in the way how you feel and approach situations, emotional situations. And that way. You don't collect it again. And as you said, I just want to say that you there was a good point, there's tons of research of positive psychology, there is tons of research and many other way greater mentors and healers, who do you who do this kind of stuff we are learning from and that there's tons of research about that, too. So if you guys want you can look up biodynamic rhetoric, you can look up trauma release, it's a huge field, too. It's just not so known. Because it's not. It's not so mainstream, I guess. Right. Yeah, as you mentioned this, there's not that much money for for involved in there too. Right. So
Braco Pobric 22:09
yeah. Not that money for any specific industry. Right. So there is a money for people who do it do it well, but it's not like drug industry can pick it up.
Martin Durak 22:20
So yeah, and it's not it's not like, it's not like we will be working with you for another 10 years, you know, or exactly right. It's like become, we do the breakthroughs. We do transformation. And you take off, right.
Braco Pobric 22:33
So, so now we are, you know, at least at the time of this recording, unfortunately, we still in this COVID crisis, hopefully it's you know, going to go away, at least the way it is. You say the way you can do anything remotely? Like over the cold?
Martin Durak 22:51
Yeah, so yeah, absolutely. We're actually working on our or going online, it's actually a hybrid version of a program. So we are building this program where all the theory part where the explaining how things work will be pre recorded. And then we'll also have to like live sessions a week with our clients will who buy the Midas program, right and in that session, we can do breath work or we can do the coaching or the body like they can do the bodywork sometimes surgery Gaiden right. So this is the wonderful thing about it. Like, of course, one on one session or the person in person session is always there is this contact? That's always its own magic to it. Right. But we have seen great results from from the virtual session to right because the
Braco Pobric 23:54
amazing yeah, yeah, it's a noisy he sorry, good.
Martin Durak 23:58
No, no, I was just gonna say to the body can still it's a barrier, right? So it's about touch so the clients can touch themselves, right where where you need with the guide them to so
Braco Pobric 24:12
that is really cool. I actually I actually went through this exercise with Carolyn, we went live when she was showing me what to do. She's a kinesiologist again, and I'm really like impressed at some of these things. It's actually amazing that we can do this remotely via video call and help clients I'm really, really impressed. If you think about you know, years ago, nobody would think we can do this unless somebody is like so sick and they can't come to the office and you know, they would do call, you know, for the coach or something but and now we can just do so much and I think what's really important. It's not about oh, well we can make money different ways. I think it's about we can help people in different ways people can get help, right? in so many different areas of their life in so many different ways without leaving their home, I think that's, that's really, it's one thing that I believe technology just helped so much.
Martin Durak 25:11
Absolutely. I actually love it too. And that's, um, I have to agree with the fact that you can help people in more areas, but also we can help more people. You can have a bigger reach and bigger impact, right? Like, if you really think about it, of course, we all have to somehow pay our bills and make some money, right. But like, it's almost like, the more like, how much money you make is like completely equal to how much how many people who are helping, if you think about it that way, right? So it's, it's really like, I would never be able to reach that many people, if I do it did it one on one, you know, like, you know, one client a day or something like that. Yeah, the one on one sessions are special because they are life. But there is, there is another, let's say 50 People who don't get anything because yes, it's not possible, right. So think about this is great.
Braco Pobric 26:13
And it's also cost effective for people, right? It's much more cost effective. Hey, listen, this was really so much I think, you know, sharing your experiences a holistic coaching, healing, helping people with a trauma, chronic pain. I think this is really a really, it's a great, great experience for me. And it's going to be greatly for people to hear this end. And also, as we always, you know, in my podcast show, we talked about business and happiness. It's also going to be some people who actually might be in a process of starting practice like yours. So it will it will help to do that. I think thank you so much, my friend. This was such a pleasure. Such a great, great discussion. Thanks for your help.
Martin Durak 27:00
Thank you, Braco for having me again, and see you all
Braco Pobric 27:04
has Thanks, buddy. See you soon. Bye. Become the life success academy founding member go to academy of life success.com and click on founding member to get 60% of full membership
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